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barack obama wasn't the only person who won. i'm not saying this to denigrate the president or elevate the president. i'm explaining the negotiations right here. you get 80% -- i got 80%, you know, when i ran in, you know -- actually ran unopposed in '98. in '9d6 i got 83%. i didn't give a damn what they said. they didn't call and say i got elected, joe, with 52% of the vote, you've got to go with me. i said that's great, mr. president, i got 80%. >> he probably did do that because he tried to make social security reform the centerpiece. >> right, and it didn't work. >> republicans didn't support it. >> it didn't work. david? >> joe, isn't one of the big questions here what boehner ultimately does is a legislative strategy, not just trying to deal with folks who won in their districts and who are opposed to taxes, but does he put a bill on the floor that he knows he has to rely on heavily on democrats to pass? is he willing to take that step, and what happens to me? >> by the way, david, i want to underline the fact, i can't say
barack obama wasn't the only person who won. i'm not saying this to denigrate the president or elevate the president. i'm explaining the negotiations right here. you get 80% -- i got 80%, you know, when i ran in, you know -- actually ran unopposed in '98. in '9d6 i got 83%. i didn't give a damn what they said. they didn't call and say i got elected, joe, with 52% of the vote, you've got to go with me. i said that's great, mr. president, i got 80%. >> he probably did do that because he...
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you don't increase as much as obama wants. you do some stuff on deductions and loopholes that republicans want. create $1.2 trillion of revenue. you have a trillion of savings already from stuff that happened last year. you do some stuff on defense. you could get the $4 trillion package that we need. it's not hard, you just have two sides that are so polarized, have dug themselves into such deep corners and seem unwilling to come out. >> it will get done. it will get done. remember i told you that. >> from donny's lips. >>> let's get to some of your charts here. katty asked you what happens if we do go over the cliff. let's look at the consequences. uncertainty index is the first one. >> as i said, we don't know what happens. there's a few indicators that give a sense as to where people, business and the economy is at the moment one interesting index i came upon is called the uncertainty index, done by several economists where they attempt to incorporate the number of news stories talking about washington policies that are in
you don't increase as much as obama wants. you do some stuff on deductions and loopholes that republicans want. create $1.2 trillion of revenue. you have a trillion of savings already from stuff that happened last year. you do some stuff on defense. you could get the $4 trillion package that we need. it's not hard, you just have two sides that are so polarized, have dug themselves into such deep corners and seem unwilling to come out. >> it will get done. it will get done. remember i told...
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and obama doesn't. so as his capital goes down and his vision gets wider historically, everybody else's vision is getting narrower to that -- not even to election day in '14, but of the primary day. >> so with all that said, leigh, you look at the deal, as michael said, the president came out big, not only does he want taxes to go up on the wealthy, but he wants stimulus spending. he wants the power to raise the debt ceiling. where is the middle ground when you look at this? who blinks on these questions of taxes? >> well, i mean, everyone's doubling down and waiting for the other side to blink first. and that's why we're going to push this to the end. i think michael makes a good point. we don't know what's happening. this could be all choreographed. we don't know what's happening with the side conversations. both sides will probably give. i mean, i think everyone knows that's going to be the case. but, you know, the president has a lot of leverage. he, of course, doesn't have absolute leverage, but he
and obama doesn't. so as his capital goes down and his vision gets wider historically, everybody else's vision is getting narrower to that -- not even to election day in '14, but of the primary day. >> so with all that said, leigh, you look at the deal, as michael said, the president came out big, not only does he want taxes to go up on the wealthy, but he wants stimulus spending. he wants the power to raise the debt ceiling. where is the middle ground when you look at this? who blinks on...
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you'll see that obama is at $3.4 trillion. when you score this honestly boehner at $3.6 billion and simpson-bowles. >> explain the difference between what you saw in the initial news reports on the boehner plan. keep this chart up, control room. i read $2.2 trillion plan by boehner. you say $3.6 trillion. >> do you want to spend the next -- >> no, i really don't. >> why not? >> so to make it simple, it has to do what you count. the biggest difference is the budget control act. the $900 billion cuts, we budget guys count as part of the package. >> sequestration? >> no, telephones the first deal they did. we count then and then there are interest savings. i think this is the way i like to think about it. apples to apples. >> the third chart. >> the last chart shows you how it breaks down. the obama plan has half from tax increases versus about 20% in the boehner plan. these are philosophical differences. boehner would cut much more. obama's view is we've cut so much from that already we have to be careful how much more we cut. >
you'll see that obama is at $3.4 trillion. when you score this honestly boehner at $3.6 billion and simpson-bowles. >> explain the difference between what you saw in the initial news reports on the boehner plan. keep this chart up, control room. i read $2.2 trillion plan by boehner. you say $3.6 trillion. >> do you want to spend the next -- >> no, i really don't. >> why not? >> so to make it simple, it has to do what you count. the biggest difference is the budget...
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>> a re-elected barack obama back at number one. two years ago we had hu jintao so it is not automatic the president is at the top but with a kind of mini mandate, four more years and the defacto leader of the free world it is a pretty easy selection of number one. >> angela merkel number two. easy to understand. >> europe goes through germany and germany goes through merkel. >> let's talk about vladimir putin coming in at number three. >> yes. he has been on the list even when he wasn't president because we all know who was still running the show then. he's back up there with a bullet. he's been as high as two on this list. here is somebody who has a u.n. security council permanency, controls a huge oil and gas reserve, has a nuclear tipped army and wields his power very effectively. >> and loves to show his muscles. many times as possible. >> powerful in many ways. that's right. >> of late bill gates has been the rodney dangerfield of silicon valley or seattle. he gets absolutely no respect but you give him plenty. he comes in at
>> a re-elected barack obama back at number one. two years ago we had hu jintao so it is not automatic the president is at the top but with a kind of mini mandate, four more years and the defacto leader of the free world it is a pretty easy selection of number one. >> angela merkel number two. easy to understand. >> europe goes through germany and germany goes through merkel. >> let's talk about vladimir putin coming in at number three. >> yes. he has been on the...
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and obama would be remiss not to try. go ahead, eugene. >> obama has talked about -- he phrased it as breaking the fever, i think, at one point. this sort of solid wall of adamanting opposition to any sort of tax rate increase ever in the house has been seen as a problem to him from day one. and coming off the election, he's in a stronger political position than he's been in before. his incentive is not to rush into the room, his strength is out among public opinion where that's friendlier terrain for him. whereas once they get in the room, of course, republicans still have power, still have control of the house. >> yeah. >> so there's no great incentive for him to rush to compromise at this point. >> gene, why is -- why is raising the top marginal rate so important to the president as well as liberals across america? why -- explain why the is that so important? >> well -- >> and i'm talking specifically the top marginal rate. not taxes on the rich. because the rich have been skating by for too long. i've said it it's imm
and obama would be remiss not to try. go ahead, eugene. >> obama has talked about -- he phrased it as breaking the fever, i think, at one point. this sort of solid wall of adamanting opposition to any sort of tax rate increase ever in the house has been seen as a problem to him from day one. and coming off the election, he's in a stronger political position than he's been in before. his incentive is not to rush into the room, his strength is out among public opinion where that's...
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president obama and speaker boehner. nobody else. with 24 days before a year-end deadline, "the new york times" says boehner made the request to clear the negotiation room going forward, leaving it up to himself and the president to reach a deal to avoid automatic tax hikes and deep spending cuts. and while the two men may be negotiating privately, yesterday the president took his message to the public, visiting a local virginia family as a part of his my2k social media campaign, sitting around the kitchen table. he told the family he was optimistic. >> the message that i think we all want to send to members of congress is, this is a solvable problem. the senate has already passed a bill that would make sure the middle-class taxes don't go up next year by a single dime. just to be clear, i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%. but i do remain optimistic that we can get something done that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >
president obama and speaker boehner. nobody else. with 24 days before a year-end deadline, "the new york times" says boehner made the request to clear the negotiation room going forward, leaving it up to himself and the president to reach a deal to avoid automatic tax hikes and deep spending cuts. and while the two men may be negotiating privately, yesterday the president took his message to the public, visiting a local virginia family as a part of his my2k social media campaign,...